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daveincali
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 Posted - 02/12/2010 : 19:21:53
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| Has anyone scene any data or information if nudity within the family increases the chance of children being promiscuous? It seems if children are taught the truth about nudity and our bodies then it will not lead to premature sex? What are your thoughts? |
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mfletch7
USA
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Posted - 02/12/2010 : 22:53:29
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| I have read of several instances where wholesome nudity around the home helps to build correct thought processes regarding nudity in children that helps build relationships with parents and also helps children as they go through puberty. |
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Captain Curmudgeon
USA
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Posted - 02/13/2010 : 12:20:54
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One place to start to find the answers to such questions might be the 205 Arguments and Observations in Support of Naturism at TNS. There's an indexed version at Family Skinnydippers, a site (and organization) developed by a sometime member of this site.
Here's Number 76, for example.
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76. Research has demonstrated that countries with fewer reservations about nudity (and sexuality in general) also have lower teen pregnancy and abortion rates.[101]
A 1985 study by the Guttmacher Institute found rates of pregnancy and abortion among teenage girls in America to be more than twice those of Canada, France, Sweden, England, and The Netherlands. The disparity couldn't be explained by differences in sexual activity, race, welfare policies, or the availability of abortion, but only in cultural attitudes toward nudity and sexuality. The study found American youth to be particularly ignorant of biology and sexuality, partly due to a climate of moral disapproval for seeking such knowledge. It found that lower levels of unwanted pregnancy correlated with factors such as the amount of female nudity presented by public media and the extent of nudity on public beaches. [102]
You can find the notes and the bibliography at either site.
If I were the parent of daughters, I would seriously consider moving to a naturist organization ("nudist colony") designed for families and raising them there.
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FullMonty
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Posted - 02/13/2010 : 19:56:44
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I seriously doubt if any members of this forum, that have families, live the nude lifestyle. However I know of a few that nudity happens in the normal course of life. In my house, the kids come and go from our bathroom while we are in the shower and it's no big deal. We soak in the hot tub together, once again , it's not a big deal.
I just don't think you can create a blanket policy where IF one is raised around nudist values, THEN they won't have premature sex. There are so many other factors involved. |
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mfletch7
USA
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Posted - 02/27/2010 : 12:51:55
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| One of the glaring considerations that needs to be given the study presented is that it is not saying that there is less premature sex in other countries, it is that there are fewer unwanted pregnancies in other countries. Does this just mean that teens in other countries learn of contraception better? |
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hairybare
USA
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Posted - 02/27/2010 : 15:23:49
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This has been on my mind to is the lower teen preg. rate in Europe doe to nudity being no big deal or the fact they have a better availability of contraception. A study hear would be quite eye opening. I due feel that if a kid is used to nudity he won't go looking in the wrong places or wrong things.
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Ravenwarbird
Canada
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Posted - 02/28/2010 : 02:10:43
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| Speaking of the availability of contraceptives.... a group of people at my school were giving out free popcorn and condoms. A strange combination I think. I also thing the popcorn was just a way of luring people to the boot and getting people to take the condoms. I will also note the vast amount of condoms in every wast receptacle withing 40 meters of the booth. Goes to show that people just wanted the popcorn. |
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hairybare
USA
376 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2010 : 09:15:27
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One you want to pop, one you don't!
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carolinaboy
USA
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Posted - 02/28/2010 : 20:02:35
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| funny you should bring up popcorn.my first wife was pregnant most of the first half of our marriage,my dad told us it was from eating to much popcorn. |
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Aragorn and Arwen
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 19:18:09
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Originally posted by hairybare
This has been on my mind to is the lower teen preg. rate in Europe doe to nudity being no big deal or the fact they have a better availability of contraception. A study hear would be quite eye opening. I due feel that if a kid is used to nudity he won't go looking in the wrong places or wrong things.
Hairybare
From the Europeans who talked to me about it, it's neither from the nudity nor the avaibility of contraception - it's from the more open attitudes about sex, which in turn lead to more open discussions about sex. There are a lot of kids here who hit puberty and don't understand the feelings and urges that they are getting because they never hear discussions about sex or sexual desires at home and even in some school districts, a lot of things regarding sexual desires and how to cope with them are not discussed.
So, basically, in places where nudity is more common, there is a corresponding attitude where the parents and teacers feel more open about talking about sex and telling children about things like contraception. I fully understand those who don't feel comfortable teaching kids about contraception - it's almost like you're teaching kids how to have sex and get away with it. But at the same time (and some of you - catholicguy especially - might disagree with me) it seems to me like it is a bigger sin to have unprotected premarital sex than to have protected premarital sex because of the dangers of bringing a new life into a relationship that isn't a stable family environment.
So, we don't want kids having unprotected sex, but we know they will if we don't teach them about contraception. But at the same time, we don't want to teach them how to have sex and not have any consequences because that's almost implying that having premarital sex is okay. To me, what parents and schools need to do is to teach kids about contraception and how to use it, but teach it under the guise of "this is how a married couple will keep from having unwanted children." That way, you're not implying that it is okay for them to go have sex, but you're not leaving them ignorant to how to protect themselves if they should go astray. |
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oldhippie
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Posted - 03/31/2010 : 10:54:37
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The time that i spent in Europe showed me the BIG difference in attitudes towards sex that they have, as compared to Americans. We do, afterall, have a very strong Puritan heritage here that still influences what is concidered chaste and/or obscene. The attitude that I've noticed in Europe is one of "it's natural". While families may hold that opinion here as well, there are still subtle influences within society, and some NOT so subtle, lol, that still teach that the body is a dirty thing and even very small children are taught to "shut down" any curiosity they may have about their own body or feelings and sensations they may experience.
I believe that many obsticles are overcome with the maturity of the parents, consistency in their lifestyle, and the inevitable maturing of their children.
Oh, by the way, here is where i tell you all that I have no children....just an opinion. |
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kp05
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Posted - 06/23/2010 : 09:51:50
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| My nine year old daughter has been taking swimming lessons and when we ask how they are going she has responded that the instructors change completely nude in the locker room. When she said this I responded "where are they supposed to change?" My wife said that the women's locker room has individual stalls and even some curtains on the showers. I told her that the men's locker room is totally open in its changing area and shower area. My wife is very modest oriented with clothing; she tells the girls they need to cover their bodies; they are 5, 7, 9. Her idea of modest clothing even for them is covering the area where garments would cover. I know she feels strong about this so I just let her go. I try to not make a big deal out of being nude. |
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hairybare
USA
376 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2010 : 09:50:35
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It seems so bizarre to me that now it is weird to be nude in a locker room. I guess it goes back to the fact kids don't have to shower after gym in school for fear they will see each other naked.
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Calguy
USA
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Posted - 07/26/2010 : 20:59:02
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| This past weekend I returned from a vacation to the Boston area. One of our side trips was to Niagara Falls. We visited the falls on a Saturday when there were large crowds. At one point I needed to use the men’s restroom. As I approached the restrooms I stepped around a young family (mom, dad, and about a 4 to 5 year old boy) to enter the men’s room. The restroom was small with two urinals and two stalls. As I was taking care of business I heard some talking behind me and turned to see the dad and the young boy who I had encountered on my way in. The dad was undressing the boy and he stripped him down to just his short T-shirt. The boy did not even have on shoes at this point – just his T-shirt. The dad directed his son to use the urinal next to the one I was using – which I thought was gross considering this was a busy restroom and the young boy was bare foot. Guys, you know how bad the floor can get around a busy urinal. I finished up and stepped away to wash up and the dad took my place at the urinal. As I was preparing to exit the restroom the boy was running around between all the men who were waiting while his dad had his back to his son. The kid was still nearly naked with just his short T-shirt on and the room was full of other men and boys waiting their turn to use the facilities. I found this insanely odd – I am no prude and do not have a problem with children being naked when appropriate – however; I did not see the need to strip the boy down to just a short T-shirt to use a urinal. And then while the room was full of other people turn you back on your naked son so that you have no idea what he – or others – are doing. To me this is an invitation for disaster. Maybe I am missing the reason for the father doing what he did with his son because I only had daughters and never experienced this type of situation raising my children. |
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joserab
USA
845 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2010 : 21:24:41
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| 100% with you Calguy. |
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Ravenwarbird
Canada
726 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2010 : 01:48:06
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I have heard of parents doing that, stripping their kid to just a shirt or nothing at all in order to potty train them, sometimes with undesirable "outcomes"; but never for a kid that old. My only thought would be maybe the kid had a history of not aiming  and wetting his pants.
Oh and one more thing, thanks for the mental picture of a men's-room floor, I will defiantly be scrubbing the bathroom floor in the morning win full bio-hazard gear . |
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