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Noodles

371 Posts
Posted - 12/07/2009 :  14:03:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cougs... I'm jumping in mid stream on this, but I have a question for you - you mention that you're somewhat inept with regard to sports, and the feeling of being overweight, etc., seems to put you out of the competitor's circle, right? So, is it more or less, perhaps, a jealousy factor that since you "know" you can't compete, you then idolize those you wish you could be like?

I'm making assumptions here, and forgive me if such is the case, but I believe many misconstrue certain tendencies b/c they don't truly understand from whence those tendencies spring. Pornography I believe is a perfect example. There's beauty in the body - male or female. It's our Heavenly Father's crowning pinnacle of achievement. And since we (society, that is) shun and/or hide the physical body, in all of it's glory and attributes, we develop curiosities that, if unchecked, can lead to wanton behavior. Naturalism can in large measure answer and quell the lingering questions that are sparked by those natural curiosities.

May I suggest you mingle with those others in wholesome activities where competition is not particularly of issue. Such as helping the Elder's Quorum move someone in or out. (No one moving in out? I was about to make a suggestion, but...) Seriously, do what you can do, as you can do it - but try to take advantage of those times where muscles can be flexed in non-competitive ways. You may find tremendous satisfaction arising from the camaraderie that subsequently develops.

Again, pls forgive if my comments are off based. It's just that this is what I was "touched" with as I read your comments. Take care, and God bless.

Just my 2½¢ worth...
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CatholicGuy

USA
313 Posts
Posted - 03/23/2010 :  08:08:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I realize this thread has been dormant for 3 months; but I just read it for the first time and I'd like to chime in with a couple thoughts.

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Originally posted by argonaut

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Originally posted by cougsprovo
I've noticed that the more I'm exposed to healthy situations like gym showers or locker rooms, the more comfortable I am with my own body and less overwhelmingly attractive other men becomes.


I have noticed the same thing, but with women. The more I have associated with real live naked women in a non-sexual environment, the better I am able to control my sexual desires for any woman. I still appreciate an attractive woman, but maintaining appropriate thoughts is no longer an arduous battle.


First a belated welcome to cougsprovo. Second I want to echo what argonaut said: regardless of whether you're talking about attractions to men or attractions to women, naturism can really help to keep them from being overwhelming.

Third, what you've been saying here reminds me of the philosophy of the group People Can Change.

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been around

151 Posts
Posted - 03/24/2010 :  14:34:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not going to address the issue of being attracted to men except to say I was attracted a little bit to my best friend in junior high and when he slept over we saw each other naked when we were changing for bed(I would be naked since I started sleeping that way when I was 11 but he wore pajamas)but we never experimented like so many young teens do. As for friendship, though, everybody reaches out for that and I think most men don't have many friends, and some don't have any. I don't. I have more women friends than men friends. When I see 3 or 4 guys getting together for breakfast at a restaurant I am so impressed and happy for them that they get together regularly to talk. I wish I had that with other guys, which might be one of the reasons I post to this forum. Recently I had to call roto-rooter for our clogged pipes and I got to talking with the plumber and he was so interesting and had done so many varied things I was attracted to him, not sexually, but as a possible friend I could talk to occasionally. I even told him that and asked for his email address, but he's not a tech guy-doesn't have an email account or cell phone. I told him I'll never have a cell phone either. But he is moving out of state and going into semi-retirement so I had a good conversation with him but that is all.
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argonaut

USA
1955 Posts
Posted - 03/24/2010 :  16:33:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I dont have friends that I get together with except for ddoger who I meet for lunch occasionally (and really enjoy) and two other guys who I see rarely and call once every year or so. I just don't have the time to maintain friendships outside of my family.
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ddoger

Canada
205 Posts
Posted - 03/25/2010 :  02:02:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
speaking of which... I'm in town next week. I'm trying to convince my DW it would be a good idea to come with me as this will probably be my last trip for quite some time. I told her I want to say "good-bye" to my friends. Hope you are in town. would love to get together with you for lunch. I think it is your turn to pick the place.

Cheers
ddoger

The rule is... Live the Principle. If you choose not to live this rule, more rules will be created. MP
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argonaut

USA
1955 Posts
Posted - 03/25/2010 :  04:19:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I will be traveling Tuesday and Wednesday. Back Wed. evening.
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